303: Why Sales Is Leadership and Leadership Is Sales

303: Why Sales Is Leadership and Leadership Is Sales

303: Why Sales Is Leadership and Leadership Is Sales

In your leadership role, do you see yourself as a salesperson? Mark Hunter makes the case that leadership and sales are the same. You’ll agree that they are when you hear Mark’s definition of those words. It’s just one of many writer-downers in this episode!

Mark Hunter is known as “The Sales Hunter,” and he’s recognized as an expert in sales. He is a member of the Sales Hall of Fame. He’s the author of High-Profit Prospecting, High-Profit Selling and most recently, A Mind for Sales, which was the focus of this conversation.

Mark spent more than 15 years in the sales and marketing divisions of three Fortune 200 companies. During his career, he led many projects, including the creation of a new 200-member sales force.

Mark’s passion for sales has allowed him to consult and speak on 5 continents and 28 countries. He is on a mission to have each person he meets see sales the way he does. Clients range from Samsung, BP, and Kawasaki to small start-ups. No matter their size, they all value Mark’s engaging style and specific strategies that deliver results.

You’ll discover:

  • Why Mark says you cannot lead anyone until you first lead yourself
  • What made his manager at McDonald’s one of the most memorable leaders Mark ever worked for
  • The positive words Mark associates with EGO
  • How Mark defines charisma—and what it looks like in action
  • The 3 greatest assets a leader has, if used well

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302: Becoming a Generous Leader

302: Becoming a Generous Leader

302: Becoming a Generous Leader

When you think of the key qualities of an effective leader, what words come to mind? Did you include the word GENEROUS? If not, you will add that word to your list after you listen to this conversation with guest Joe Davis. 

Joe is the author of a fantastic new book, The Generous Leader: 7 Ways to Give of Yourself for Everyone’s Gain. This important book is a must-read for every leader because it touches on so many areas that the best leaders learn and practice. Joe exemplifies the type of leader Meredith is always eager to have as a guest: he’s focused his entire career on growing strong as a leader and helping others realize their potential. 

Joe is a Senior Partner at Boston Consulting Group or BCG. In The Generous Leader, Joe shares a performance review he received that was a game-changer for him: He was told he was not the best at problem-solving solo; but with others, he could solve any challenge. His manager identified his key strength—a person who could connect with others. 

Joe has leveraged that strength in his 35+ years at BCG in roles such as co-founding the Washington, DC, office and leading BCG North America. He is currently Chair of BCG’s Center for Inclusion and Equity and the Board Chair at Whitman College.

You’ll discover:

  • What leaders can do to help others feel seen
  • Why Joe recommends leaders adopt the “practice of perspective taking”
  • How Joe pushes people to be more than they believed possible and addresses times when they diminish themselves
  • How to be an Action Ally and not a Performative Ally
  • Ways to show vulnerability so others more easily connect with you

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301: Are You Living a Life That Matters?

301: Are You Living a Life That Matters?

301: Are You Living a Life That Matters?

 

Twelve years ago, when my father died, the funeral director made a statement to my mother, my sister, and me that I’ve never forgotten.

In this solo episode, I share what he said and how it applied to my father. I also describe seven ways Dad lived that have had a lasting impact on all of us who knew him.

I’m the co-founder and president of Grow Strong Leaders. We’ve created online resources that help leaders strengthen their character and communication skills to build strong relationships and inspire others to perform at the highest level.

You’ll discover:

  • Why my father never made one enemy throughout his entire life
  • How a strong work ethic drove everything he did
  • What Dad did to build trust instantly
  • The 3 words of sage advice Dad passed on to everyone in the family
  • Questions you can ask yourself as you reflect on your life and how you want to be remembered

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300: Using Systems to Create a Life That Works

300: Using Systems to Create a Life That Works

300: Using Systems to Create a Life That Works

This is a very special episode of the Grow Strong Leaders Podcast for 2 reasons: it’s #300, which is a noteworthy milestone for any podcast. And #2, the guest is Steve Chandler, someone whose books have influenced Meredith’s thinking and her life more than any other author. At this point, she’s read 20 of his 30+ books.

Steve has been coaching leaders and other coaches for decades. His own coach calls him the Godfather of Coaching. Steve is the Founder of the Coaching Prosperity School, now called Advanced Client Systems, for people who already know HOW to coach. This program is highly recommended if you’re a coach because you’ll learn systems for acquiring clients and building a prosperous business.

And speaking of systems, that’s the focus of this conversation. We discussed the new book Steve has written with Trevor Timbeck. It’s called The Power of Systems: How to Create a Life That Works. It’s packed with life-changing insights, so you’ll want to listen to multiple times to capture them all.

You’ll discover:

  • The issues Steve and Trevor were seeing with their coaching clients that inspired them to write this book
  • How Steve defines a system in the context of creating a life that works
  • A simple 2-step process for creating a system
  • Why Steve says that PRACTICE is one of the most powerful systems
  • The role of systems in setting and reaching a goal

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Why Personal Development Is a Leader’s Top Priority

Why Personal Development Is a Leader’s Top Priority

The late Jim Rohn, one of the great authorities on personal achievement, explained how he went from being an Idaho farm boy to being a business man who was offered multi-million-dollar contracts. His secret:

“Learn to work harder on yourself than you do on your job.”

This one piece of advice is so important that if you don’t follow it, your chances for long-term success in your career and in your life are greatly diminished.

You need to be strong as a person to be an effective leader and have the greatest positive impact.

This means, while you’re putting out fires and managing the people on your team, you have to constantly work on who you are.

You can absorb enormous amounts of information about managing others and responding to tough situations. But applying this knowledge can be really challenging. That’s because the world you live in is a constant barrage of obstacles and setbacks. It takes grit, determination and a host of other inner strengths to follow through and actually implement what you learned.

So you have to be smart, and you have to be strong—at the core of who you are.

But this isn’t easy, for two reasons:

#1 – The core strengths you need aren’t formally taught in schools.

You acquire strengths like courage, perseverance, self-discipline, effort, responsibility and integrity through life experience, but usually not in a systematic way. If you were lucky, you got valuable guidance from your parents, teachers, coaches and other adult mentors.

Mostly likely, though, you didn’t always have positive role models. Some of what you absorbed along the way was the wrong stuff—habits that don’t help you now when the going gets tough.

It would be nice if you could hit a “delete” key in your brain and erase the habits that get in your way – and simply replace them with the strengths you need.

But that’s not how it works in the real world.

#2 – Your brain is hard-wired from years of programming.

Your brain doesn’t distinguish good input from bad input. It doesn’t protect you from yourself. It doesn’t say, “Uh, Chuck, my man, I’m afraid I can’t program that for you. It’ll get you in trouble down the road.”

No, when you repeat a behavior often enough, your brain just goes ahead and ingrains it as a habit.

So you could end up with an addiction. Or act like a jerk. Or avoid conflict situations with customers, employees and loved ones.

And it’s because, over time, your brain cells made actual physical connections and formed the networks in your brain that enable your behavior. In a very real sense, your current way of doing things is hard-wired.

A super highway analogy

Think of a habit you have now that’s causing problems for you.

It’s a lot like a familiar, well-traveled road. After so many years of practice, the turns and stops are practically automatic. But at some point you realize that the route you’ve been taking has some potholes. It’s actually holding you back and slowing you down.

So you decide to make a change and try something that works better.

This is like trying to build a brand new super-highway. The construction is going to take time because you’re starting with a dirt road. It’s going to be a bumpy, rough ride at first because the new behavior feels awkward.

That means, when you try to change a habit, at first your results may get worse before they get better. Sometimes you’ll forget what to do. Or you’ll make mistakes. You can end up feeling awkward, disappointed and frustrated.

In order to get to that efficient road, you have to persist through the construction phase. You literally have to rewire your brain by creating new connections, and this takes time. It could be weeks or months, depending on the complexity of what you’re trying to change. Progress can be slow and uncomfortable. When setbacks happen, you’ll be tempted to go back to the route you know so well.

And that’s exactly what happens with many leaders.

When a new approach seems too hard, they revert to using the familiar habit. They know what they should be doing and they know the old way causes issues, but they aren’t willing to pay the price to change.

So how do you ever get from that dirt road to the superhighway?

To break out of your comfort zone, you’ve got to have a strong commitment to your development – to work on yourself until you’ve achieved the change you want to make.

You have to be willing to experience discomfort as you move from conscious competence – knowing what to do – to unconscious competence – being able to do it automatically. If you just stick with it, the brain will rewire itself and you’ll eventually stop using the old road altogether.

Following these three steps will help you get through the awkward construction phase.

STEP 1 – FOCUS

Most leaders have a lot of irons in the fire. Managing massive action on multiple fronts can bring you fantastic results.

But that approach doesn’t work when it comes to your own development. You can’t attack several personal changes simultaneously if you want them to become permanent. Your brain just doesn’t work that way.

Instead, you need to have a laser focus. Take a good hard look at yourself and identify the ONE thing that keeps tripping you up. These few questions may stimulate your thinking…

  • Do you constantly chase bright shiny objects that distract you from your top priorities?
  • Are you hesitant to approach others who could help you move forward in your career because you lack self-confidence?
  • Do you give up at the first sign of rejection or resistance?
  • Do disappointments and setbacks put you in such a funk that you lose momentum for days or weeks?
  • Do you tend to wait for things to come to you instead of taking initiative?

If you’re not sure what you need to work on most, just ask the people who know you well. They can see what you can’t. Be gracious when you hear the truth about yourself – and thank them for their honesty.

STEP 2 – TAKE ACTION

Once you identify what to work on – and find out how to do it right – it’s time to take action. You’ve got to apply what you learn – on the job and at home.

And not just once or twice. Dozens or even hundreds of times. Remember, you’re creating new physical connections in your brain. It takes a lot of repetitions and practice to build that super-highway.

STEP 3 – REFLECT

You accelerate the process when you take time to think about what you learned each time you try the new behavior.

You think I’m kidding, right? With everything going on in a busy leader’s life, who has time to stop and reflect on what’s happened?

Actually, YOU do…or else you’ll keep repeating the same mistakes and never learn from them. That’s what often happens. People go from one thing to another without taking away the lessons from each experience.

So what exactly should you think about? What does “reflection” look like?

Take a few minutes to ask yourself these 5 key questions after each experience, and you’ll be astonished at the insights you get.

1 – What happened?
2 – Why did it happen that way?
3 – What were the consequences?
4 – What will you do differently in the future?
5 – What are your next steps?

If you commit to implementing this cycle of focus-action-reflection as you work on your personal development, you will re-wire your brain. You’ll build the strengths you need to prevail in the competitive and demanding world of a leader.

“Ever since I was a child I have had this instinctive urge for expansion and growth. To me, the function and duty of a quality human being is the sincere and honest development of one’s potential.” – Bruce Lee

ABOUT THE AUTHOR

Meredith Bell is co-founder and President of Performance Support Systems (PSS), a global software company that publishes 20/20 Insight GOLD, an award-winning 360 feedback and survey system, and Strong for Performance, an online coaching system for personal and professional development. Learn more about how you can use these tools to help the leaders you work with and get the free guide, "The 5 Secrets to Getting Better at Anything." Connect with Meredith on LinkedIn.

The Ultimate Use for 360-degree Feedback

The Ultimate Use for 360-degree Feedback

What’s the purpose of 360-degree feedback? What are the most powerful ways to use it?

The technology for collecting and reporting 360 feedback was developed in the 1980s. Its original purpose was to diagnose leadership performance issues. By assessing a comprehensive set of skill areas, leaders obtained quantitative and qualitative information about strengths and areas that need improvement.

Other innovative uses for multi-source feedback have evolved over the decades (see Appendix). However, when most people hear about 360 feedback, they still think of its traditional use: a global diagnostic of competence and skill.

A much more powerful application of 360 feedback goes beyond the diagnosis to reinforce changes in behavior.

A doctor’s diagnosis can reveal the disease, but this information can’t cure it. Likewise, 360 feedback can identify priority areas for improvement. But this information isn’t enough to improve work habits.

Changing a behavior pattern may require instruction, followed by months of reinforcement and coaching.

Try changing the way you eat or the way you swing a golf club.

Tiger Woods made changes in his swing early in 2004. He didn’t start to win again until almost a year later, after persisting through hours of practice every day.

The problem is that when people try to do things differently, initial attempts tend to feel awkward.

When these efforts don’t achieve the desired result, frustration and discouragement follow. Without a formal program of follow-up and support, people tend to fall back on what feels familiar and comfortable. They eventually return to their old way of doing things.

To achieve the desired changes in behavior, 360 feedback needs to be followed by several months of reinforcement, feedback, coaching and accountability. It takes that long to create a new habit.

After receiving 360 feedback, people may need training or coaching, followed by an extended period of reinforcement.

This sequence represents the most powerful 360 application:
measuring individual performance improvement.

Used in this way, 360 feedback works both as a diagnostic assessment and as a means to check whether weak areas have improved.

The concept is simple. First, integrate behavior-based assessment with behavior-based training. Then several months after training, follow through with a more focused assessment related to the priority areas for improvement. Compare the two sets of scores to determine how much skills have improved.

This approach has significant benefits. First, the results of the pre-course diagnostic allow participants to set quantified, performance improvement goals.

Also, learners are more focused and motivated to improve when they know there will be a follow-up assessment.

Finally, follow-up assessments create accountability.

The assessment results show whether the individual has improved performance. Administer post-course assessments to produce ongoing measures of performance improvement.

You can use the data created by this assessment to calculate a practical return-on-investment (ROI).

For example, assume that leadership skills account for half of a supervisor’s effectiveness. Assessment scores showing an average improvement from 6.4 (before assessment and training) to 7.7 (several months after) would indicate a 20% percent improvement. Since half of a salary of $60,000 is $30,000, the organization would be getting 20% more effectiveness for this cost, worth roughly $7,500—a result many times greater (in dollars) than the investment in the individual’s training.

You can perform simple ROI calculations like this by measuring pre-course and post-course performance improvement if you use a customizable feedback system.

Combine an economical, flexible feedback technology with a behavior-based leadership development curriculum, and you get a fully integrated assessment, training and reinforcement system:

  • Focused, motivated participants
  • Ongoing feedback during reinforcement
  • Performance improvement accountability (Level 3 evaluation of training)
  • An easy method for calculating ROI (Level 4 evaluation of training)

And leaders are empowered to reinforce their new skills over time to create permanent, measurable changes in behavior.

In the end, how well your front-line managers lead affects the bottom line—and every other aspect of your organization. Considering the billions of dollars invested annually in leadership development, you need a way to demonstrate that your programs are actually changing behavior. Using 360 feedback to measure performance improvement is one of the best ways to quantify the return on your investment.

About the Author

Dennis E. Coates, Ph.D., is CEO of Performance Support Systems, Inc. He coordinates research and development and provides strategic direction for the company. He is the author of 20/20 Insight GOLD, an award-winning 360 feedback and survey system, and Strong for Performance, an online coaching and development system. Learn more about how you can use these tools to help the leaders you work with and get the free guide, “The 5 Secrets to Getting Better at Anything.”